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Poster: mUSICPLAYS THE BAND Date: Jun 6, 2006 10:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Vince Passing, Cut the crap

I have to speak out now. I can't keep it in any longer. The music is OURS( The dead and the heads) I go to listen to some classic jams to ease my soul that was recorded by my brother with consent from my other brothers and now all i experience is some broken up streaming bullshit from the GD Family. fuck You GDM.I call for an official boycott. The Music is OURS!!!!! I recently saw a Ratdog show. It was the last one i will ever attend. It was the worst conceert i have ever seen. This is the end of an era! Pack it up now ....while you can save some dignity. RIP Vince NOdge

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Poster: laowai Date: Jun 7, 2006 11:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Vince Passing, Cut the crap

My this thread has moved a long way from poor Vince.

There seem to be lots of Weir haters. I can understand that after his immature SEE YA though I don't agree with every invective. I am a big fan of Barlow in his post-Dead career with EFF. Bet those two have a lot to talk about. If they ever talk..

How did musicians make money before the wax cylinder? Did they not do what BB King has just finally stopped doing? Did they not get off their arses ( or asses ) when they wanted some money and actually play in realtime to live living people?

By the same token, should we all not be making the effort to remember what music is really about and making sure we get off our arses to go and see some live bands play in between stream-grabbing and aud-downloading? Maybe you are - good on you - but what is the point in downloading more music than you can listen to? Don't defend yourself with the 'collector' tag, You're not collector you're a hoarder. You know the price of everything and the value of nothing. Why do you want a 'personal archive?' What are you? The Smithsonian? If you trade, introduce and share fair enough but if you admit you haven't listened to a lot of it...

I like to think that playing music live in the here and now is what Jerry was about. I hope it's what LMA is about too. Promoting the joy of witnessing music played right there where you are. It's wonderful to have the ability to visit the there and then from a PC, laptop, tape machine CD player, whatever. We were so lucky to have so much access to so much good music for so long. And you know we can still dip in when we want.

Maybe if The Dead had kept playing Ramrod could have kept his job. He would have had something to do. I doubt whether the popularity of LMA had anything to do with that decision.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 7, 2006 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Vince Passing, RIP

Agree. If anything LMA popularity created a massive resurgence in gd interest. It sure did it for me.

It would appear that this fooled the opportunistic GDM into believing that somehow ALL of the sbd's had some kind of value in the mainstream market, when the real value was in the hearts of the live music sub-culture members.

Deadheads and other live music fanatics are not special or superior, just different (and in some cases really, really different). They embrace the live music artform for all the same reasons mainstream audiences reject it.

RIP Ramrod.
RIP Vince.

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Poster: lostmoon Date: Jun 10, 2006 11:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Vince Passing, RIP

Never was a huge Vince fan, but it is always time for pause when someone you know passes on.

As far as GDM & the GD go, the LMA has provide me an opportunity to move on into the "what came next" part of my musical life. I don't agree w/what GDM did, but it is not my call.

Sure, I like reaching into my own GD archive now & again, but not nearly at the rate I use to - and I certainly don't get my checkbook out anymore...
There is too much new stuff out there to check out.

Vince, may you forever RIP.